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1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
This is a hand that came up in my session review. The table has been tight sometimes and loose sometimes but in every case aggressive.
PokerRoom 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (21.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, <font color="green">Hero folds</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, UTG+1 calls. |
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
good fold
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
Need a better read House. I call this for one more bet.
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
Getting 35:3 I'm tempted to see the turn because of the size of the pot. Set over set is possible but your read doesn't make me think anyone has KK. Turn fold is easy ui.
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
I raise MP1's bet and fold to aggression.
Anyway, nice fold. |
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
You're not getting enough value capping preflop. With that number of callers you can no longer expect your JJ will hold unimproved. I'm not sure about the flop however.
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
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Getting 35:3 I'm tempted to see the turn because of the size of the pot. Set over set is possible but your read doesn't make me think anyone has KK. Turn fold is easy ui. [/ QUOTE ] Shirley, you can't be serious! You realize that you're FIFTEEN BIG BETS short of the immediate odds you need, and that you'll have to make all that up? The only way you are is if someone has KK. No way do you have odds to peel here. |
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
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Getting 35:3 I'm tempted to see the turn because of the size of the pot. Set over set is possible but your read doesn't make me think anyone has KK. Turn fold is easy ui. [/ QUOTE ] We have less than 1.5 outs to the set I'd say. |
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
With so many people I doubt we'll be good very often. The pot is so big we to win we'll have to show down the best hand (read by spiking our jack and no one playing QT and no heart draw comming in).
It's an easy call of one bet after the flop but in the face of all that it's a pretty straight forward disciplined fold. Yes it's sad you ain't getting value for your jacks but the thought of being in a game where it gets capped 5 ways should really make up for this. |
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Re: 1/2 JJ - cap pre-flop? How to proceed unimproved?
*grunch from the cheap seats*
With a backdoor flush/straight draw, 2 outs to a set and 35 bets in the pool already you need around 8 to 1 to continue and you are getting 11 to 1 to see the turn calling 3 bets. I am pretty sure you want to see the turn here. |
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