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Old 07-09-2006, 10:48 AM
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Default $11 speed :Mid Pocket Pair UTG

This is a really basic question, but I have no idea what to do with these mid pocket pairs UTG at this point in the tournament. I have ~8 BBs so if I raise it prolly has to be all in. Pushing UTG doesn't seem that great to me because I am prolly not getting called by any hands that I am beating by a lot. At best it would be a coin flip type situation. And with so many people acting after me it seems like a bad idea. However, I normally like 77 so it seems weird to fold it.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
br000se: t1640
UTG+1: t3110
MP1: t3302
MP2: t1960
CO: t1505
Button: t1900
SB: t2860
BB: t3723

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero ???
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Old 07-09-2006, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: $11 speed :Mid Pocket Pair UTG

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Old 07-09-2006, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: $11 speed :Mid Pocket Pair UTG

i would fold utg. i think in this situation the reward of the 300 in blinds isn't enough to risk going broke for UTG. is this a leak?
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: $11 speed :Mid Pocket Pair UTG

This is close, but I push here. You are +EV as long as the ranges of all villians are reasonable. Also, this is a spot where I don't mind a race as blinds goig to 200/400 will kill me and there are so many players left.
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Old 07-09-2006, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: $11 speed :Mid Pocket Pair UTG

cEV still ~= $EV at this stage...I definitely push.

edit: Did a little SNGPT analysis...if we give each of the players the same range then no matter what we set them on, pushing is at least +0.0%. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Obviously this is a VERY rough estimate but it just confirms my intuition that we have to push here. If pushing is wrong, then it isn't very wrong.
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