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easy fold?
Villains are unknown
Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (6.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero ???? |
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Re: easy fold?
I 3-bet preflop. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think you have implied odds to peel the flop if MP is unlikely to 3-bet. If MP is pretty aggro, I think you have to muck.
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Re: easy fold?
Thats a tough one.
I think you can feel like your making a good lay-down here. econ_tim says implied odds may justify a peel, but I'm thinking about your effective odds here. Is an Ace going to help you? Not really... It will probably just cause you more grief. Is a queen going to do anything? Certainly not. So really all your hoping for is running diamonds or a Ten, and with the action thus far from 2 unknowns, You can assume that it will probably be expensive to take this hand to the river on a draw. Sure it will pay off when you hit your hand, but i think theres too many cards out there that will entice you to take this hand too far, and not enough that are going to put you ahead of your opposition. |
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Re: easy fold?
I think it's a fold. I would value the gutshot at 4 outs, BDFD at 2, and ace at 1, giving you about 7 outs. You have implied odds on the gutshot, but I don't think on the BDFD or ace.
So you have a little implied odds on the gutshot, but when you account for the fact MP might 3 bet you have worse effective odds currently. |
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Re: easy fold?
I think it's a good fold. Is anyone else in the pfr 3-bet camp?
-Caddy |
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Re: easy fold?
Fold the flop and 3b pf
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Re: easy fold?
3 betting preflop changes this hand completely.
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Re: easy fold?
What would the bottom of your 3bet range be here in the BB?
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Re: easy fold?
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What would the bottom of your 3bet range be here in the BB? [/ QUOTE ] against two unknowns probably AJs/AQo/KQs/TT |
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Re: easy fold?
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[ QUOTE ] What would the bottom of your 3bet range be here in the BB? [/ QUOTE ] against two unknowns probably AJs/AQo/KQs/TT [/ QUOTE ] That's tight against unknowns. I always 3b ATs and AJo. Sometimes 99. |
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