Simple Basic Newbie Question......

[SoCalRugger]

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had troubles highlighting earlier text.

anyhow, this is like vietnam flashbacks of my early limit "reading book" days... but i thought miller/sklansky (????) considered a back door cover as one out. same with straight draw, although i can't remember the particulars on quality of draw and made flush/straight... but i do remember 1 out for a back door straight (assume a good straight and OE) and 1 out for a back door flush (want it to be 3 flush on board or you hold A or K of the suit).... not sure about this though.

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Yeah, this is in SSHE and is worth a read. My copy is in a box in storage right now, so I can't look up the exact figures, but what's quoted above sounds about right.