my solution to the gay marriage argument

[elwoodblues]

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Ok, so you agree that marriage laws should have limits.


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Yes.

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Sadly, your opinion on where those lines are to be drawn goes against a vast majority of the rest of the public.

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Thankfully, we have a Constitution and a plethora of caselaw that makes discrimination on the basis of gender illegal. Marriage laws are discriminatory on the basis of gender plain and simple. They are not discriminatory on the basis of sexuality.

Gay Woman can marry Gay Man 1 (no discrimination on basis of sexuality)
Gay Man 2 cannot marry Gay Man 1 (no discrimination on basis of sexuality --- the only reason Gay Man 2 cannot marry Gay Man 1 whereas Gay Woman can is because of his gender.)

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I do appreciate the vague "Well, there are legitimate state interests in limiting the marriage benefits to two people." comment though. You did a fantastic job supporting that opinion.

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Legitimate state interests in limiting marriage to two people: Cost, efficiency, practicality.

Note that the "cost" element isn't greater overall costs (as any marriage has a "cost" to the state") it is greater cost than a non-multiple marriage. Gay marriages don't have a greater cost than straight marriages.

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This might not be true for women, but I wholeheartedly believe that if men were legally allowed to marry other men, you'd see bachelors snatching up $12 marriage licenses left and right and entering into legal contracts with other bachelor friends for the tax benefits.

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A) I don't think that would happen, but that's largely irrelevant because you do and neither of us have anything but our best guess on that matter
B) So what? Straight people get married all the time for reasons other than true love and we don't outlaw that.

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If I'm single and my best friend is a government employee, what's stopping me from paying my $12 for our marriage license so I can get put on to his healthcare plan?


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If your best friend is a woman, what's stopping you from doing that now? How are the situations any different except in one case it happens to be two people of the same gender?