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Old 11-18-2007, 08:38 PM
friedace friedace is offline
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Default Re: NL50: AA. Me gets suspicious...

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If we check, and he bets, and we only call, he's essentially making a winning play against our range, because

a) his bet has folding equity (i.e. he can win the pot in TWO ways now, by making the best hand or by making us fold)

b) he gets a free card if he's drawing against us

c) he gets to cheaply show down, since the dynamic in the hand has changed to a mode where you are going to continue to play passively and check the river to him, giving him the option to take a showdown.

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Good points Renton. For point B, do you mean he gets a free card when he checks behind on the turn? If so, disregard the rest of my post.

If not, I don't really agree with point B though, because it really isn't a free card. If I were villain and semibluffing with a draw, I would be thinking that I'm betting $7 into an 11$ pot. Assuming opponent calls, I am getting 18:7 (11+7:7), which would be the case when opponent has a good hand. So, I'm still getting charged a price, but this is made up for by the other advantages you mentioned, especially fold equity.

Besides this discussion, I think that betting is preferable on the turn. If raised, we can really narrow his hands down and confidently fold. I think c/c has it's place, but to do it, you need a read on the opponent and you really have to c/c a river to let him bluff off his chips. c/c turn then c/fold river doesn't really make any sense.
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