Assani vs the StatHeads: Evaluating NFL QBs

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No, you were talking about Harrison only. You made no mention of Dallas Clark, Anthony Gonzales, or Tony Ugoh.

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The point is the exact same. And yes you're right that I didn't mention that those guys were out because I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT GAME IN PARTICULAR. You are the one that brought up that one game in particular.Nevertheless, my point remains the same- Manning's great numbers are aided by a great supporting cast. When you give him a decent cast(which is what he had last night as Wayne and Addai are still solid weapons) he is good but not the best QB of all time.

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wtf kind of point is this? It's not a point at all. Take away Jerry Rice from Joe Montana and he's not that great either.


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Of course you don't. You threw it out there because it sounded good and supported your point, but you didn't really believe the specific example was relevant, did you?


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Ugh....look dude, I've come into this debate with an open mind to learn and I've asked others to do the same....obviously its hard to decipher "tone" on a message board, but it really sounds to me like you just want to prove yourself right and not look to truly find the best evaluation methods...I honestly have no desire to do that. If you want to "win" this argument, then fine- I concece, you win.

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Huh? You bring up a silly point about Vince Young controlling games, then when JoA challenges your contention, you say this? Using a one game example from Kerry Collins doesn't make any sense at all.

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I do think that offense effects defense and vice versa

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Ok, thats all I was ever saying(although you conveniently picked out two sentences of my paragraphs so that people might not see that).

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This isn't that obvious, but yes. See also: 'pace' in the NBA.

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In fact, with 8 interceptions in his last 5 games, Vince Young hasn't done much for anybody but opposing defenses.


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Statements like this are why I dislike the "stathead's" views so much.

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Right. Giving up 8 INTs in 5 games is bad, unless you're a player whom I carry a torch for, then it's good.