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Old 03-20-2006, 04:12 AM
B00T B00T is offline
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Default I hate these hands and its probably my biggest leak...

Villian in this hand is a typical lag...47/9/1.4

I've seen him a couple of times bluff at hands where I would not put even a total check/raise bluff past him but I'm also not expecting it.



Ultimate Bet 10/20 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB


These are hands I have MASSIVE trouble with. I think my biggest leak is I say to myself over and over, either #1 who is going to call with a hand that I beat? or #2 I absolutely HATE getting check raised in these hands...

Is this an easy bet/fold? Is it that bad if I get check raised here. In my thinking I cannot rationalize if he will bluff with a hand I beat 1 in 6-7 times. He folds BB to steals 35% of the time. I can't really put him on a range and can't really tell from his betting.

Does this change if villan has different stats? What if he was 30/18? 65/2?

If river was 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] does that change it? I think this makes it even more likely he would c/r this as a straight bluff, and TAG's would try it even more, putting me on exactly what I do have.

I know this may be elementary to some of you, but I think I miss a lot of bets here or not comfortable on the situations you should b/f + b/c.

I know I need to bet these rivers, I just need some confidence and a plan.

Edit: What if the straight draw was open ended and it filled, with or without the flush? Does that change it? I know these are a ton of questions but I really feel like crap after these hands.
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