Razz: Defending against steal

[Praxising]

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Right, Huck Seed. I'm just saying that, just because he'd fold A23 in some spots, that doesn't mean he (or hellmuth) would not raise here every time.

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I agree. I didn't invoke to inform this specific situation, it was about generally not having some "must play" about any hand because of theoretical mathematical advantage only. As for ol' Phil, his advice is don't play them unless you are stealing. Doesn't mean he follows his own advice, of course.

As long as we are on this, if you pull out all your starting 8s and all your starting 7s, what's the difference in win rate? Might as well have some hard data here, might show something more useful to us than opposing opinions no matter where they come from.

And if you get the chance to analyze the math in my two trny hands, I'd appreciate it. I know it's a lot of work.