The state of Notre Dame football.

[PhatTBoll]

I think people tend to underestimate just how horrible the Willingham recruiting effort was.

One question for all you [gigantic state school] fans:

What would be the effect on your program if the NCAA took 10 scholarships away this year? Would you see the effects immediately? Or would you expect to see them a couple years down the line?

That's essentially what Willingham did to ND. Did Weis benefit from Willingham's recruits? Yes, technically. Brady Quinn was a Willingham recruit, but he was basically landed by Chinedum Ndukwe's father. Ty played the "soft sell" on him. Ha.

Weis can't win without Ty's players? Well, Ty couldn't win WITH Ty's players. And at Washington, he still can't, even with a bona fide badass at QB.