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Old 10-29-2007, 10:18 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: Situation while \"running it twice\" during home cash game

75-25. This should be obvious.

EV is neutral. Long-term, the results are the same, 12 outers will win their expected % against sets, or whatever situation. Running it X number of times simply reduces variance. There are a number of reasons for this - keep fish in the game, keep pots fair/small against people you're friends with, or for people who only come to the game with one or two buy ins. None of these are necessarily great reasons, but they are what they are.

As far as not "being stupid and running it twice", this is silly commentary. Please keep in mind that this is not online. Live players don't get to play 18000 hands a month, and can't click a button in a matter of four seconds to put another buy in on the table. Also, they don't (or shouldn't) have access to every last cent of their bankroll at every minute. Therefore, the human element comes in and people run it twice simply to avoid losing huge amounts of money in one shot. Does this conform with the 2p2 mantra of accepting variance and obsessing over winrates and all things +EV? No. It's simply a live play angle for the above reasons.

FWIW, some clubs run it 3x in order to guarantee a "winner" in situations like sets vs OESFD's when you are essentially racing and most twice-runs will result in splits.
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