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Old 10-22-2007, 05:17 AM
thepizzlefosho thepizzlefosho is offline
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Default Re: open % from CO and button

i think one of the big things that you guys are missing in this discussion is understanding how much the short term variance of the hands you are dealt affects your overall image and thus how players are adjusting to you.

If I am running hot and picking up hands left and right I look very laggy, and thus even semi-observant villains will adjust and treat me as such (call down lighter and semi-bluff me less etc). However if I'm running awful, folding mostly preflop, and folding to most aggression postflop, then villains are going to note that. They will probably play me a little tighter preflop, but they'll attempt to run me over in BvB or stealing situations.

Even if most people have the stats available, only the guys playing 4+ tables are going to have trouble being aware of how a certain player is playing that night.

I think heisenberg has made some excellent posts in this thread, and I certainly think they would be worth expanding on for the articles he has said he was writing. However I think we should be careful to affirm the effectiveness of individual hand or situation based on long term statistics, when addressing our current image as well as the players involved plays a huge part in its effectivness.

For example earlier in the thread Oink provided some stats and immediately people questioned the width of his stealing range. He responded by qualifying the numbers based on situations, and then of course it makes more sense.

anway maybe this was just senseless rambling, but I find that keeping tabs on my own table image, how I'm running, and what types of hands I have SD really makes a significant difference in what types of hands I can successfully open with in steal situations.
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