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Old 10-18-2007, 06:11 AM
AhabCaptain AhabCaptain is offline
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Default Pushing 10 percent edges in early stages - again


I am the guy who played a very tight game in the beginning of any MTT. The few times I made it to the middle stages with above average chipstack I was unstoppable. Sadly, this happened very seldom.

I am working on changing from the survivalist way to the accumulator way of playing tournaments so that when I do make it deeper I can have a larger stack and do some real damage. Please help me achieve this. I have read threads from the anthology on aggression and early tournament play and found that what I need to do is push all edges 10% or higher. I tried it a couple of times but probably overdid it so now I am trying to fine-tune my actions. What I mean by that is that I am willing to go to the felt in the first hour anytim I believe I am 10% ahead. Please give me some dos and don'ts on the issue.

Here are my observations so far:
Preflop you can go allin against:
- a loose player (allin call range: 22+, A2s+, A2o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs, QJo, JTs) w/:
44+, A6s+, A6o+, KQs, KQo
- an avg.player (allin call range: 22+, A2s+, A2o+, KQs) w/:
66+, A6s+, A7o+, KQs
- tight player (allin call range: 66+, A6s+, A8o+, KQs) w/:
88+, A9s+, AJo+, KQs
(hand ranges taken from the pushbot-chart, calculations done with PokerStove)

On the flop you can go allin if:
- you are on a draw and you really believe you have all 15 outs
- you have less outs but you believe he will fold anything up to middle pair (folding equity)
- you believe you are ahead and against a draw w/ 11 outs or less
(a draw w/ 11 outs or less is : any straight draw, any flush draw, any two overcards, any pair needing to improve, any PP needing to improve)

On the flop you can't go allin if:
- you're on a draw and you have less than 15 outs and your opp. is loose
- you have more than 1 opponent


I understand that sometimes pushing on the flop is not the best way to extract the most money. Against who would you push?
How many times does your opp. have to fold to make it profitable to push w/ less out?
What about turn play?
In what other situations should you never go allin on flop?

(p.s. I posted this accidentally in the High Stakes MTT section but I think this comes here)
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