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Old 10-14-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default J8s flopped nice

Notice stacks. Villans are tards.

Opener (UTG in the main hand) is a poor player. He's passive and plays very strange. Here is a hand I played vs. the opening villan:

(PF was misclick, he is CO and mucked J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
orange: $411.10
UTG+1: $287.50
CO: $427.50
Button: $453.30
SB: $128
BB: $92.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">orange bets $17</font>, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $49</font>, CO calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($149, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $110</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $369
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows As 10s
villan mucks J9o no spade</font>

So he's not very good and peels lightly.

The cold caller (Button in main hand) is not good either. He is actually the main villan and is super super aggro. He is like 80/30 over a small sample and doesnt ever fold. He was my target on another table. Here is a hand I played vs. him on another table: (He is CO):

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $236.46
Button: $290
SB: $402.25
orange: $476.02

Pre-flop: (4 players) orange is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $8</font>, SB folds, orange calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $12</font>, Button calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $30</font>, Button calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($101, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $70</font>, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $241
<font color="#ffffff">orange Shows Qd Kd
Villan mucks Q8o</font>

and here is one more hand vs. previous villan on the other table- as stated earlier, he never folds:

MP miniraises pf, villan re-miniraises to $8, MP calls. Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], MP bets $10, villan's miniraises $20, MP calls. turn 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] MP check/calls villan's $30 bet. river J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] MP check/calls villan's $55 bet and wins with QJ against villan's K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

hand in question: Hero has been playing fairly taggy, really not too loose of an image. I doubt these guys are noticing, but I'm trying to isoraise both.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $349.90
Button: $350.95
orange: $664.05
BB: $169.45

Pre-flop: (4 players) orange is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $6</font>, Button calls, orange calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $20</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($80, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $60</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($200, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $240</font>, orange calls.

is it standard? how do you play other streets? do you like c/r-ing the flop due to relative position? do you like c/c-ing the turn ever? how about the river, easy shove or call? thanks.
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