**** ALDS GAME 4 Tribe/Yanks (Byrd vs. Wang)****

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Also, after a poll of AL scouts and managers regarding the best tools and "stuff" in the league, you can't find Carmona in the top 3 of any single pitch that he throws. This was in Baseball America. It's just not true

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Pretty sure his sinker will be in the top 3 of next year's issue.

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Sinkers are counted as fastballs when it comes to pure "stuff". It is a sinking fastball.

edit: so if you think he'll make the top 3 in the fastball category I'd have to say that's pretty unlikely. But the fact that we're debating whether or not he has one top 3 pitch seems like a pretty strong case against him being anywhere near prime Pedro, or having the best stuff since

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Yeah, he'll be Top 3.