66- A hand in which I begin to suspect I suck at the pokers

[One Outer]

Villain in this hand is MP. He is an old white guy, but not a nit. He's playing (this is anecdotal, of course) 45-50% of his hands. He has shown down an T9o on the button before (not sure that's helpful, but maybe it could give you an idea of what he's doing). Button is a young guy like me except better looking and not fat. One of those retards that is wearing a "with pre-ripped brim" cap from some mall chain store like Hollister. He has only been at the table for thirty minutes and hasn't played an excessive amount of hands. I already suspect he is a donktard; in the one hand he raised PF before this he was in EP and showed down A8o. So anyhoos.

Canterbury Park 6/12, full game, last night, written down on a cocktail napkin...

Hero is in EMP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG limps, UTG+1 folds, Hero limps, MP (Villain) limps, HJ and CO fold, Button raises, SB calls, BB calls, all call

Flop (6 handed, 12 SB):

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BB, SB and UTG check, Hero bets, Villain raises, Button calls, BB, SB and UTG fold, Hero threebangs, Villain calls, Button calls

Turn (3 Handed, 10 BB):

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Hero bets, Villain calls, Button calls

River (3 players, 13 BB)

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Hero...

Is this a pretty easy value bet on the river? I thought it was close. Maybe I have nothing to lose...I think Villain is on clubs. I fear the button is calling me down with 99-JJ or something like that. Then again, I think he might also call me with Ace high.

Oh, and I think my flop threebet is deeply retarded and spewy. I'm just creating a big pot on a drawy board with a marginal hand that I can't protect against two opponents who almost certainly both have overcards and at least one of which also has a good draw. It reeks of reverse implied odds.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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I'm also going to tack on a fun no content hand. This actually happened to me last night. Villain is total donktard. He is this little guy that looks like he lives at Canterbury. This works way better if you picture a 5 foot Asian guy hunched over his checks while he keeps raising me.

Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero raises, 4 folds, CO calls, Button (Villain) calls, SB folds, BB calls

Flop (4 players, 8.5 SB)

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SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Villain raises, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn (3 players, 6.75 BB):

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Hero donks, CO folds, Villain raises, Hero loads the UHaul for three town, Villian wins mayoral election for four town, Hero has his finger on the button in five town, Villain calls

River (heads up, 16.75 BB):

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Hero bets, Villain calls

Hero, of course, has quads

Villain shows down...44

I love Canterbury Park.