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Re: Good spot for a second barrel?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think this is a bad spot for a second barrel. Your bet on the flop showed alot of strength, you were representing a K or something like A7. The fact that he called as opposed to raising you IMO means that he is not scared of very many turn cards. He could have called with something like KQs, KJs, QJs, AJs, 77, or 22 or a poorly played 88-TT. Either way I think you have very little FE on the turn and only two cards to come on the river which could possibly help you if you are not already drawing dead. If he checks river I would check behind as well, I don't think you can steal this pot. [/ QUOTE ] Seriously folks. I am going to float the [censored] out of all of you and lead or check/raise every turn. Our villain in this hand is aggressive. Aggressive players understand c-bets and aggressive play. They also float...which may seem passive but aggressive players know it is an aggressive play. [/ QUOTE ] For example, my question to you is say you are villian, what hands are you floating here? And I don't know whether you can or not, but describe a general situation where floating is a good play. [/ QUOTE ] A couple of things. 1) This is an ok flop to float. Our PF raising range include lots of hands like 55+,A7s+,A8o+. If we are TAG (and OP says we are) that means we are firing at this flop with almost every one of those hands. Most TAGs check the turn after they miss and their c-bet fails. So as for what hands I might choose to float against a TAG on this flop? Just about ATC b/c I can be sure the TAG checks the turn if he missed and I can fire away on the river. This flop is unconnected and if the TAG doesn't have the K, he is very likely to give up on every hand except AA (including QQ if he is a true TAG). 2) I'm not saying villain made a good play if he floated here. Just that it is very possible that an aggressive villain will float here. There are also plenty of meta-game considerations for firing a 2nd barrel. Because if you constantly raise PF and c-bet the flop then shut down on the turn unless you have something, you are very exploitable. We have to fire a turn c-bet sometimes, and I think this is a reasonable spot to do so for the reasons mentioned above. We really don't have any other way to win this pot IMO. |
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