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Old 09-26-2007, 07:28 PM
BitterChris BitterChris is offline
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Default I must learn...

... to shove the turn, so the river can't burn.

I think I have been trying to extract value to much instead of taking the pot down, and getting rivered. After all, noone complains about getting turned, right?

First hand, blind steal gone right then horribly wrong (I know the steal may not have been a great idea) - all of opponents bets were almost instant, and thought that if he was bluffing the flop the I was still good on the turn, and continued that logic on the river:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t7031)
MP2 (t31188)
CO (t10255)
Hero? (t22582)
SB (t25392)
BB (t25014)
UTG (t46314)
UTG+1 (t10249)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero? raises to t3000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t2000.

Flop: (t5700) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t2000</font>, Hero? calls t2000.

Turn: (t9700) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t5000</font>, Hero? calls t5000.

River: (t19700) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t14914 (All-In)</font>, Hero? calls t12482 (All-In).

Final Pot: t44664

Second hand - opponent had been playing extremely tight (on the verge of rockish but not quite) and had just become one of the chipleaders:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t5895)
MP3 (t15038)
CO (t3820)
Button (t37082)
SB (t6100)
Hero? (t10620)
UTG (t20557)
UTG+1 (t28241)
MP1 (t27680)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t900</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero? calls t600.

Flop: (t1700) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero? checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t1700) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero? checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t1200</font>, Hero? calls t1200.

River: (t4100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero? checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t2100</font>, Hero? calls t2100.

Final Pot: t8300

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