NL 100 - extracting value from two quad hands

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $107.75
BB: $155.70
UTG: $85.45
UTG+1: $121.25
MP1: $173.55
MP2: $80.00
MP3: $102.30
CO: $71.30
BTN: $14.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $4.00</font>, 4 folds, BTN calls $4.00, Hero calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13) 3 9 3 (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $10.50</font>, Hero calls $10.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50

<font color="blue"> I usually lead here, but with shorty and an UTG+1 raiser i decided to check with the idea to let them build the pot on this street. When UTG+1 bet 9 and BTN underraised i realised UTG+1 sucks at betsizing based on situations and that if i call he has to see the turn with a nice meaty pot to sink a stack into.

Does anyone reopen the betting to give UTG+1 a chance to stack off here whilst he seems interested?</font>

Turn: ($44.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00

<font color="blue"> I was planning on a check raise here, normally i would. Anyone call at all? Not really sure what i was thinking when i called, i probably thought calling and shoving river was less scary looking that a checkraise here.

I think this is the error street. Anyone disagree?</font>

River: ($94.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $68.25</font>, UTG+1 folds
Uncalled bet of $68.25 returned to Hero

<font color="blue"> Well, played myself into a corner so i have no option but to shove here.</font>

Pot Size: $94.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$14.50)
Hero had 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Threes) and WON (+$52.00)

So i took down an ok size pot - UTG+1 cant have had the overpair i thought he did and so its quite possible he has AK and wouldnt stack off with me anyway on the turn - but clearly i lost value if he has the flush draw at which point the flop was where i should have negotiated an all in from him.

Any better lines out there, or have i covered it in my turn analysis with a simple check raise?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $99.00
BB: $107.65
UTG: $172.50
UTG+1: $16.00
MP1: $100.35
MP2: $100.00
CO: $59.00
BTN: $56.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T (8 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.00</font>, 5 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, UTG calls $8.00

<font color="blue"> My donk bet was purposely small to make him give action. I guess i should be betting 6 as normal here, but with this flop i expected action from a donk bet and got it. Anyone dislike the 3 bet sizing, or is it pretty standard? </font>

Turn: ($39) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

<font color="blue"> Now the problem i have is if he has a king, if i check raise or donk bet him he will put me on AT or something. I decided a check call plays best here and id stack off on any river. Arguably i should bet here because i would with AK, but at the same time with the unbeatable nuts its hard to bet the scariest turn in the world into him. Comments?</font>

River: ($69) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $65.00</font>, UTG folds

<font color="blue"> Who'da thought, he didnt have the K. Ho hum. Fwiw he took a while before folding, at the time i thought he might have been on AA but heinsight is 20/20. </font>

Pot Size: $134.00 ($3 Rake)

As it is, im pretty sure i take his stack on a brick river. Whilst i didnt hate the turn T at all [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] it kind of killed plan A to bet solidly and move those chips to the middle as fast as he allowed me but i figured the check tells a story of being scared here.

Anyone play this one differently and where?

Overally, when your as huge as quads the pot size isnt defined by you but your opponants - but i feel given the action they ahve given me i should have milked the teat for more than i got.