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Old 09-24-2007, 07:48 AM
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Default NL10 TPTK oop, potential flush draw, check anyway?

Ok, I have TPTK and the flop brings 2 suited cards. My normal line here is bet-bet-bet against unknown players (as long as the flush doesnīt come and/or there is no extrem agression of villains), but in this case I know the two main villains. Itīs hard to get big bets out of these guys when they are beat, but they can fold.
I am looking for comments on my line.
Thank you!

<u>Reads:</u>
MP1 - he is a tight ABC multitabler. He does not have a record of tricky play.
Button - this one is known to err on the side of cautiousness when the bets get big


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $13.05
BB: $8.55
Hero (UTG): $11.85
UTG+1: $1.20
MP1: $13.80
MP2: $2.60
MP3: $5.70
CO: $18.35
BTN: $8.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.60, MP2 calls $0.60, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.60, 2 folds

<font color="blue"> They have seen me making preflop raises of that size before. </font>

Flop: ($2.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, BTN checks

<font color="blue"> Nice flop, but MP1 and Button are not the customers I wanted.

Ok, I sure see the possible flush draw. Problem is, MP1 cold-calling my preflop raise means that he is set-mining most of the time. That is, more often than not, he either has nothing to pay for, or has me beat. Button is also not going to call-call-call with a worse King. So, if I get callers here, I feel like I have to check the turn anyway, even if itīs a blank. So why not check now, bet later? Against a villain who wants to play (the big stacks) I feel like I have to give one free card anyway.

Even more, I do not expect MP1 to slowplay, say, a set. MP2 is quite likely to bet any kindof-flop-connected hand if checked to, given his stack size and the common NL10-manners. Up to a certain degree, they are both defining their hands should they check behind.</font>

Turn: ($2.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $1.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.00

<font color="blue"> Ok, itīs three of them, but is this worth a try anyway? </font>

River: ($10.55) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Pot Size: $10.55 ($0.50 Rake)
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