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Old 09-21-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Cheating

Absent making progress on pressuring Absolute, I think we're waiting on making progress on the hand histories. Adanthar is reportedly not readily available for the next 2 weeks, and N80 has quite a task to get these emailed hand histories importable into PT (player names are sometimes missing from the starting seat/stack list, actions are sometimes missing (usually all-in raises, so not too bad), actions are out of order, and the street card statements are not positioned right so can't be used to separate the actions).

Hopefully, using the emailed hand histories won't be necessary, because they have a selection bias. It would be much better if we got all the hands from someone who datamines, and separate out the dumping sessions from the rest. Then supplement this with the hand histories from some of his opponents just to see more of the opponent hole cards in case that provides useful info.

Even if we end up with a biased sample, if we get enough hands at a big winning clip with this playing style it should be enough. For limit poker hands, you can rely on the win rate and sample size combined with the penalty the player(s) are imposing on themselves by being too loose preflop. In no limit, preflop looseness is not serious, but database queries could demonstrate an uncanny handling of the large pots, that would be enough to overcome the spectre of selection bias.

Schneids started a good thread in the HS limit forum, calling into question a couple of serious plays, and a bunch of unclear plays from a small sample. But there wasn't really any coordinated followup.
 


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