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Old 09-20-2007, 02:40 PM
8Adam8 8Adam8 is offline
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Default Re: Super Tues AK v. Premier

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Are you aware that the main goal of a shove is to just pick up the blinds/antes a huge % of the time? I don't mind picking up 15% of my stack here without a showdown.

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Are you aware that you have no idea what you are talking about?

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Making it 3k seriously invites people to call with pairs and AJ/AQ and use their position to get you to show weakness. You're not fooling anyone when you're a semi-predictable player making an UTG raise. Show that your hand is strong and allin. Don't allow yourself to play a flop out of position with stack sizes the way they are.

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Yes we want to tell them our hand is strong since we have only a drawing hand and we don't want to get value out of AK, but want to play it safe and krtjgwjkthbwtjh LOL

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My shoving range here is AK, AQs, TT+ most of the time. If people think that's exploitable then I guess my MTT ROI must be an anomaly.

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So you open shove, AA, KK here? You're a good player.

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And yes 8Adam8, your line in this hand is way, way worse than shoving PF and/or betting the flop, and this type of post-flop situation comes up a lot more than you'd think.

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Your argument that open-shoving gains you more +EV than standard raising and it isn't even close is not even remotely correct.
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