AC Scenario

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(and lest you try and roll out Hitler, he wasn't elected).

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Sure he was elected, in the same sense that any parliamentary leader who gains his position with the support of a coalition of parties is elected. The fact that he went on to out-manipulate his coalition supporters to gain even more power doesn't change the fact that he originally attained the position of Chancellor through democratic means.

Of course, actors in both AC and statist scenarios can be and sometimes will be psychotic and evil. The AC scenario would be worse when this happens because there won't be any other outside states to reign in the evil character.

[/ QUOTE ]<font color="red">He was appointed Chancellor not elected. The National Socialist Party that appointed him never received more than 37% of the vote. In the elections immediately preceeding his appointment the NSP lost seats and votes vs the prior election. He was only appointed because of the threats of violence from his thugs. That is hardly a democratic process. </font>

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Do you not understand coalition run goverments? Even when no party receives a majority of the votes, the eventual prime minister or chancellor still is an elected leader. He was appointed chancellor with the support of a coalition of parties. Papen, his coalition partner, thought he could control him, but he was wrong. Definitely qualifies as the elected leader of the government by any standard.

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Yes I understand them. Hitler is an example of the breakdown of a coalition system. There was no majority coalition. Papen was fired, von Schleicher (sp?) quit, Hindenburg appointed Hitler only to avoid violence from Hitlers minority.

It would be the equvialent of President Shrillary appointing Rumsfeld Secy of Defense and giving him Presidential powers because Rumsfeld threatened to nuke Washington. That isn't a democracy of any sort.

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