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Old 09-07-2007, 07:04 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default 2 hands - similar situations - different lines

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($98)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($110.45)</font>
UTG ($98.75)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($97)</font>
CO ($100)
Button ($45.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $19</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $43.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125.95 (All-In)</font>, MP calls $57.50 (All-In).



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($97.50)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($125.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($100.10)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($16.15)</font>
UTG ($177.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $103.1 (All-In)</font>, Button calls $78.10.

which line is best? does it really make a difference? the first one was really confusing w/ his little 3bet. if he's 3betting that much it's pretty safe to assume he's calling a shove, yea? so should I still jam it w/out fold equity?

2nd one, I think there are some who raise/fold an overpair there (not many) or just think my flop lead is bs and raise as a bluff. which is better than c/r'ing but also miss out in a cbet if he's got air.

dunno really what I'm asking. just kinda guidelines as to when you guys bet/3bet AI with a draw or check/raise it.
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