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Old 09-03-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Minraising the river with a straight, and folding to a shove.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $214.10
BB: $206.00
UTG: $466.15
MP: $174.90
CO: $848.00
Hero (BTN): $439.50

Reads: <font color="blue">villain is xidan_hu , a regular donkey at 200nl. he runs at 28/6/3.25 over 90 hands (this session). the only notable pots ive been in while hes been at the table is where i double barreled vs the table donkey with the nutflush draw and checked down the river, and getting allin with an open ended straightflush draw on the flop vs a bigger openended straightflush draw (typical).</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $2.00, CO checks, Hero calls $2.00, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, BB folds, MP calls $11.00, CO calls $11.00

River: ($40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $30.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $161.90</font>, Hero folds



Some thoughts on the hand.

1) I didn't raise preflop as i often do because im trying to cutdown on the amount of iso-raises i do with these pretty weak gapped suited connectors. people just dont fold to my cbets.

2) i didn't bet the flop since the pot is multiway and i probably dont have much fold equity.

3) turn bet sizing all wrong? i figured id get called by pretty much anything. the other big stack on the table HATES folding. the table donkey would DEFINATLELY call with any flush draw or any OESD, regardless of the overbet. he just looks at it as 11$ from a 500$ stack.

4) when he leads into me on the river i think minraising still allows me to get value from a load of made hands like top pairs, or 5x.

5) i dont think he would ever shove over my blatent value minraise with 5x, fearing a full house or straight. i dont think he ever does it as a bluff either (since it must look so much like a value bet).

6) When he shoves, i only have the lowest straight possible, on a paired board, hes never bluffing, so whats he doing this with other than the same hand? he definately plays enough to realise that 5x isn't the nuts here i think.
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