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Old 08-29-2007, 06:53 PM
gameoverjc gameoverjc is offline
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Default Cleaning up free outs/free showdown plays

I am normally a sslhe player who would occasionally takes shots at higher mslhe. I know the two games in question are completely different, but I am an avid reader of this forum, so wondering on these two plays are std at higher limits (trying to incorporate more tools in my game to be able to move up).

Cleaning up outs:

1 limper ep, mp raises (just sat down), 2 calls to me, I 3 bet otb with 6-7 diamonds, blinds + everyone call.

Flop: 10-8-A rainbow. checked to raiser, he fires, folds between, I call, blinds both call.

Turn: 5 clubs. Raiser bets, I raise...

Is this ok for cleaning up outs in a game where people like to chase redraws? I fold out the club draws (I had a read that blind picked up redraw) or is this too aggressive?




Free showdown:

2 ep limpers, i raise ep KK, 3 calls behind (jesus), bb calls, ep calls.

Flop: 10-8-2

weak aggro player in bb bets, ep calls, ep2 raises, i 3 bet, called in 2-3 spots around and ep2 caps, i call (knowing he has top 2).

Turn: Q

checks to ep2 who bets, i raise...


Is this std to see river for free + bet if 2/q/k comes getting better than 5 to 1? Does this also clean out my outs as now 2-Q may help/instead of hurt me? I was also planning on folding to 3 bet assuming J-9 stuck around.



Any comments would be extremely appreciated! (pokerbob/joker/ben/anyone please!)
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