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View Poll Results: Title says it all...what are you planning on doing, playing in a B&M casino or moving to a foreign c
B&M 23 32.86%
foreign country 25 35.71%
neither, i'm gay and like to do real work. 22 31.43%
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: VH1\'s \"The Pick up Artist\"

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i dont want to see people that are virgins come on this show, because them being a virgin shows that they truly dont love women, otherwise they would have grown some [censored] balls years ago.

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I understand where this attitude comes from. In most areas of life, if you're bad at something, but really passionate about it, you'll force yourself to become better. I think picking up women is one area where it can be a lot harder. If you suck at golf, you go out and practice, and maybe get a teacher. If you're terrified of women, and have lots of self image problems, it isn't that simple. Your friends tell you that you just need to go out and try, so you do, get rejected, and feel terrible. This happens a few times and you just stop trying. Instead of working on your underlying issues, and learning some technique to get you bye in the meantime, you lose hope and give up.

Saying these guys don't love women is unfair. They haven't been given the chance to, and society hasn't made the options for improvement that obvious. The advice you get in the mainstream is generally bad, and pickup artists are looked down upon. Learning pickup is considered pathetic by a lot of people. There's very little support for guys who can't talk to women outside of the community. You get some decent advice(improve grooming, buy some better clothes, actually TALK to women), but don't get the necessary technique/mental improvement to go with it.

If you want to watch good looking, sociable guys pick up women, try keys to the vip. Some of them have pretty sick game too. Then again, some of them have terrible game, but are really good looking and confident, and it gets them bye. Personally, I prefer watching guys grow from nothing. It's sappy, and it's painful, and it's feel good.

I think the shows done a great job of showing how hard it is for some of these guys to change. The makeover challenge showed a lot. It's easy to wear crazy clothes, or paint your nails, get your hair dyed, and your ears pierced. It's hard to push past your fear, and keep it together, when you haven't spent the time in your life to desensitize yourself.
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