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Old 08-15-2007, 10:44 PM
jlocdog jlocdog is offline
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Default Re: AJ Squeeze, flops Ace, river?

Speedlimits,

Betting the flop allows us to better mix our play for the rest of the hand. Come turn we can continue our aggression or now check behind to induce a river bluff (which seems more likely that will happen rather then rely on inducing a bluff on the turn AND river from him with a flop check).

Mostly though, I would continue to bet the turn. We still get action from alot of hands we destroy and also allows him to raise us which accomplishes our goal. Don't forget that we can induce a bluff by betting ourselves. Very important.

Dan Bitel,

Our preflop range for him consists primarily of PP TT-, Ax (where x is less then a Q), SC's from 65s-T9s, 1 gappers within the same range and broadways. Many of those hands now flopped either a set, 2 pair, a SD, a pair + SD, a weaker TP hand or a pair that has backdoor outs (77) or an overpair to two of the cards (TT w/JJ-KK being very unlikely).

Jay Riall,

Thank you. And yes I mind much less checking behind on an A84 flop since now our value increases with inducing and decreases with him calling because he has 'some of it'. I prolly still bet it though for many reasons.

Unknown Soldier,

No. That is a ridiculous statement to make....

Unless you use each hand for its own independent sample size in which case, yes, once the money goes in its a 50/50, you win or you lose or in your case, you either have it or you don't, winning or losing, etc...

Nick Royale,

If we are differing on what we feel this guy calls us on then I guess we will never see eye to eye here. The reasons why i feel his calling range is wider is based on his PF play primarily. He is a caller. Why stop on the flop...especially if he has a piece of it. Not to mention that the pot is getting big with our 3bet and that money is worth going after for him. It seems silly to think he has such a tight calling range given all this.

And why are you convinced that he is so ready to c/r shove on us with this flop? And why is it ridiculous to think a player like this can't shove draws and air and pairs with outs this deep? And why are we still using the word deep here? I guess I am more willing to stack off here then many of you....
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