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Old 08-12-2007, 03:34 AM
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Default NL 100: tryin to maximize monster hand versus regular OOP (2 hands)

First let me say that I believe my OOP play is by far the weakest part of my game and I dont really know how to fix that, so anyways any help would be greatly apprecaited


Hand 1
i am playin my normal 16/11/3.75 game and villian is regular on stars and i assume he knows my stats and my basic game, so his flop play could be air because of my high C-bet% but generally hes a tag (14/8/2.75ish) and doesnt get out of line too much, anyways i think of him as a smart player and i think my river line is too fishy


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($21.50)
MP ($100)
Button ($98.50)
Hero ($96)
BB ($187.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($44) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32.

River: ($108) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $42 (All-In)</font>,

Hand 2

main villian is unknown, same line on flop and turn again but i really considered 4 betting here

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($54.50)
BB ($141)
UTG ($49.90)
UTG+1 ($29.70)
Hero ($203.60)
MP2 ($116.85)
MP3 ($13)
CO ($100)
Button ($124)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) calls $3, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $20</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($52.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($52.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25.

Final Pot: $102.50

anyways i feel horrible about both these hands because i believe i failed to maximize on both hands also I tend to 3 or 4 bet draws on flops against some players but it has a very high fold % so i feel like Im wasting a big hand 4 betting in these 2 spots, anyways any help with better lines for these types of hands or with playing out of position in general would be great
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