I suck at blind steals

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The point is that Vil didnt just 'vpip'. He RAISED so so his vpip doesnt apply here.

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when you are talking about AF it does ... AF is a stat created by the "total" amount of actions taken. It's an indication of how agressive your opponent's 'general' post flop game is ...

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My point is I *think* his 3-pop range is the same as mine and everyone else who raises 10% of his hands and the 12% vpip has nothing to do with it thats all. He is simply agressive from the blinds ("AF is a stat created by the "total" amount of actions taken" yes... but its not a measure of the amount of actions taken. Agression factor is a relationship between calling and bet/raise/folding and this guy just isnt calling. That does not nessesarily mean he is not defending)

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also, if this guy defended his blind at all by calling his vpip would be much higher withouth influencing the pfr

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this is true

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Any information we can extract about hand ranges will derive from the pfr.

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so - i don't get your point ... we are getting killed then - an oop 3betting range by this guy is at the very least is KQs (and that's pushing it)

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[Jesus] -"you said it man" [/Jesus] But it is not the vpip of an ubernit that suggests this. His 3-pop range is the same as mine and everyone else who raises 10% of his hands and the 12% vpip has nothing to do with it thats all. He is simply agressive (as defined by AF) from the blinds.



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The relative numbers of vpip-pfr -> agg factor will then just be a reflection of how well he plays (if converged).

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agression has nothing to do with 'how well someone plays'

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Tell me what you think I meant with that statement and it will be easier to comment.

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and this guy isn't a 'TAG'

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So for the record, how should 12/10/3 be characterized and how does his 3-jam range from the BB typically differ from an 18/9.5/2.5?