Stars 109 bluff

[cferejohn]

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really I think c/r looks much stronger than betting out here

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Really? Put yourself in his shoes. What hand is the UTG raiser check-raising on this board. Pretty much specifically 88 or a bluff, *maybe* AA. What range is betting out on the turn? 99-AA plus overcard bluffs, and that range is going to look a lot scarier.

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i think if you don't c/r this turn pretty frequently you should add it in your game. I would c/r a lot of hands that aren't the ones you specify that I think are the best hand. I don't really think my play was good though and I basically agree with Austiger for the reasoning, especially given that he snap called 99.

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The fact that he snap called with 99 is a reason *not* to do this. 99 is about the worst hand he might call with, and he called with it instantly. You are only getting a bluff to lay down. I don't know if you've seen Eagles' post in STT (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=1#Post9171452), but this part seems applicable:

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Many of us have played sports and are competitive. Because of this I find it difficult to make good folds because I want to win and if I fold I lose the pot. Because of this I went through a phase were frequently when playing hands instead of asking “what am I accomplishing?” or “what is the best decision?” I asked “how can I win this pot?”. This thinking was a huge problem as many spots the only way I could win the pot was if my opponent was bluffing so I decided he was.

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Not to say you should never C-R here, but I would need a reason to do it, like an opponent who I knew would routinely float a flop bet and fire with nothing on the turn. Against an unknown, I would assume the flop call means something (i.e. top pair/overpair), and I would assume that he's not going to lay it down to a C-R considering the stack sizes and how much he has already committed to the pot.