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Old 06-21-2007, 12:49 PM
gobbledygeek gobbledygeek is offline
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Default 2/4 B&M - I don\'t raise a single time with KK; standard?

2/4 B&M, 10 handed


UTG is a young guy who despite his straddle looks to know what he's doing, kinda TAGish.

UTG+2 seems to talk as if he knows what he's doing but is playing really loose preflop and raising junk hands in EP.

MP is a nice grandmother who earlier asked if a flush beat a full house. Playing the majority of hands for any amount of bets, she is quite passive (only raises with a great made hand).

MP1 is nice looking granddaughter who is clueless. She's also pretty passive, would need at least two pairs to raise.

CO is old tight weak.


Preflop (10 players): Hero is SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG straddles, fold, UTG+2 3bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, fold, CO 4bets, fold, Hero calls (forgetting that he could have 5bet due to the straddle), fold, UTG 5bets, everyone calls

Flop (6 players, 31 SB): A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls

Turn (6 players, 18.5 BB): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls

River (4 players, 22.5 BB): 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls

Other than preflop mistake of not 5betting (due to forgetting rule) is this standard with an A on board with so many players in a big pot? Leading flop hoping for UTG to raise seems pointless in such a big pot; even 2 outers would still almost have implied odds to continue. Could I have led the turn hoping a raise by UTG would then make it unprofitable for pocket pairs to call at this point (but an UTG raise would definitely mean I'm still behind, so...)? River an easy call getting 26.5:1?

I don't recall ever not putting a raise in with KK before but was this hand ok or was it too passive?

GcluelessnoobG
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