ISYMIYSMY: Flopped Two Pair

[KingOtter]

ISYMIYSMY: My cheap way of making people want to read the thread. It means "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

Hypothesis: Flopped 2-pair is a deceptively dangerous hand, that can be counterfeited quite often. Equity is nowhere near what people might think.

Here's what I'd like for us to compare:

1. A hand where you flopped two-pair. Top two, middle two, bottom two... all are welcome. Show your hand and the flop.
2. Poker-stove analysis based on your opponent's range.

Example:

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

UTG: 51/3
MP: 45/0
SB: 77/0

Using their PT stats I get nice equity:

Hand 0: <font color="green">71.497% 73.29% </font>00.46% 2253355 14289.00 { Qs4d }
Hand 1: <font color="red">09.170% 09.17% </font>00.28% 282091 8741.83 { TT-33, ATs-A2s, KJs-K2s, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 75s+, 65s, AQo-A2o, K4o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 98o }
Hand 2: <font color="red">10.072% 10.10% </font>00.29% 310634 8824.00 { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q4s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, A2o+, K6o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }
Hand 3: <font color="red">09.260% 09.15% </font>00.40% 281298 12408.17 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 73s+, 63s+, 52s+, 43s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J4o+, T5o+, 95o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o }

But there is that flush draw... thought I'd see that in the PokerStove a bit better.

Anyway, that's what I'm talking about. I'm trying to get a feel for flopped two-pair equity and would like to see if we can gather our data a bit and compare hands. I'm not looking for bad-beats or anything... just your two-pair, your reads, and the PokerStove.

Or even if you want to suggest a different approach.