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Old 05-22-2007, 05:31 AM
Custer Custer is offline
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Default Re: possibly standard 1-2 hand @ bellagio

"Two reasons:

1. There is no guarantee the turn will get bet, especially when you happen to have the best hand.

2. You can fade a raise on the flop easily because it could just be a flush draw, and you have more equity on the flop against the various hands that beat you.

But if you raise the turn a 3-bet is very uncomfortable.

3. Raising the turn and then betting the river makes it easier for your opponents to make good laydowns against you. If you raise the flop your distribution is much much heavier in draws than if you raise the turn.

And as for the OP I think he played the hand perfectly. "

1. This is a good point. In fact, in the hand in question, hero got to raise both streets with the best hand.

2. This is poppycock. The fact that "you can fade a raise" because you don't know what it means, is an arguement against raising the flop, not an arguement for it.

I don't see why a turn 3 bet is uncomfortable. Its a 4 way pot in a live game and you have top pair medium kicker. If the turn gets 3 bet, your hand is no good, and you are likely drawing very, very thin.

3. It also occasionally has them mucking K8, which makes up for a lot of T8 folds. It also has them folding A3, after they put a bet in on the turn. This is very good for you.
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