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Hi. Started playing .01/.02 Omaha on Stars a week ago, and have a generally positive win rate for a newb, though I still make some donkey mistakes, hopefully learning from them (the biggest lesson being don't play while tired). I've done some suckout plays, and am wondering if I made a technical mistake even when winning that will come back to haunt me. I might think this because people love to tell me how horrible my play was after I suck out on the river, but they may be right. 2 hands for this example:
HAND 1 Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $3.52 <font color="black">Hero (BB): $4.69</font> UTG: $3.75 MP: $4.80 CO: $3.00 BTN: $5.16 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Button seemed overaggressive with what I thought were goofy hands, though my choices were admittedly not much better. I thought on the turn he had to have the nut straight or was overplaying the second nut, which I shared with a redraw. Actually reading the HH I feel a lot better about this, but I thought he had T-A at the time.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.10</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $0.08, UTG calls $0.08, MP folds, CO calls $0.08 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.43) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $0.20</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $0.20, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.23</font>, Hero calls $1.03, CO calls $1.03 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($4.12) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $3.83</font>, Hero calls all-in for $3.36, CO folds Uncalled bet of $0.47 returned to BTN <font color="black">River:</font> ($10.84) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $10.84 ($0.50 Rake) BTN had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$4.69) Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Nines full of Tens) and WON (+$5.65) I should have read the IHH and saw what he had, but I started thinking I was betting too optimistically and so made a bad fold here (the winner was the same player I sucked out on in the previous hand): HAND 2 Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $5.08 BB: $3.86 UTG: $4.99 <font color="black">Hero (MP): $9.67</font> CO: $2.86 BTN: $4.89 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">I actually thought he was drawing to the K flush on the turn, but I doubted myself enough to fold the bet on a draw only against 2 players.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, Hero calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.06</font>, CO calls $0.06, BTN folds, SB calls $0.06, <font color="red">BB raises to $0.16</font>, Hero calls $0.10, CO folds, SB calls $0.10 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($0.64) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $0.12</font>, Hero calls $0.12, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.12</font>, BB calls $1.00, Hero folds <font color="black">River:</font> ($3) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $2.36</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $3.78</font>, BB calls all-in for $0.20 Uncalled bet of $1.22 returned to SB Pot Size: $8.12 ($0.35 Rake) BB had 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON (+$3.91) SB had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ([Jc 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7d] (a straight, Five to Nine)) and LOST (-$3.86) I'm trying to be a tighter player preflop, since I know I can get into trouble with low pairs, naked pairs, etc., but I'm wondering if I don't profit as much when I play ABC Omaha, since I don't take as many marginally bad hands that turn into monsters (folding a ragged Q high flush hand preflop and seeing AKx suited flop, etc). This was the hardest laydown I've made in Omaha yet, but I thought he might have had a set on the flop. My turn call was the "don't play tired" lesson. HAND 3 Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $1.88 BB: $16.86 <font color="black">Hero (UTG): $3.85</font> CO: $9.75 BTN: $0.69 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">CO has been playing pretty tight; multi tabler with consistently good results.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) Hero calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN folds, SB calls $0.01, BB checks <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.08) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $0.02</font>, Hero calls $0.02, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.16</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.14 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($0.42) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $0.22</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.08</font>, Hero calls $0.86 <font color="black">River:</font> ($2.58) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2.48</font>, Hero folds Pot Size: $5.06 ($0.10 Rake) Was I too optimistic on these two hands? HAND 4 Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $6.76 BB: $2.05 UTG: $2.11 <font color="black">Hero (CO): $2.78</font> BTN: $3.40 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Players were making some mistakes, and I picked up a good hand. With all the preflop raising, I figured that I was a favorite since I didn\'t see any other AAxx hands possible, so I went in figuring I\'d just push all in unless the flop was truly horrid, as evidence by my needless raise vs nobody who could call it. Was this overaggressive? I think this was just one of those "right hand at the right time" things in retrospect.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG calls $0.02, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.04</font>, BTN calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, <font color="red">BB raises to $0.06</font>, UTG calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, <font color="red">SB raises to $0.36</font>, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.66</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30 Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players) SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $1.45</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $2.12</font>, SB folds, BB calls all-in for $1.39 Uncalled bet of $0.67 returned to Hero <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($6.99) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In) <font color="black">River:</font> ($6.99) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In) Pot Size: $6.99 ($0.30 Rake) BB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$2.05) UTG had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ([Qc 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ts] (a flush, Queen high)) and LOST (-$2.11) Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$4.58) HAND 5 Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $3.53 BB: $3.35 UTG: $2.50 MP: $2.32 CO: $0.87 <font color="black">Hero (BTN): $2.74</font> <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Table was fairly loose. However, I was afraid of trips on the flop, and the pot was big enough I thought it was worth a push to get people out, and I still had some outs for a FH.</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.08</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.06, UTG calls $0.06, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.14</font>, CO calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.06, BB calls $0.06, UTG calls $0.06 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($0.71) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.50</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($1.71) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $1.66</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $2.10</font>, MP calls all-in for $0.02 Uncalled bet of $0.42 returned to Hero <font color="black">River:</font> ($5.07) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $5.07 ($0.25 Rake) MP had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ([9h 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Kc] (a pair of Jacks)) and LOST (-$2.32) Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Jacks) and WON (+$2.50) I know I was fairly lucky in some of these hands, and especially in the first one I played the all-in on feel rather than odds, since my odds said I should lose. Is this an overall losing approach to PLO? Sorry for the long post, but I'm trying to get better. Any criticism appreciated. |
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