A Second Politics Forum is Needed

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It seems to me with all the threads here in ATF over the past year about the politics forum, which clearly generates more complaints than any forum on 2+2, that there needs to be a 2nd politics forum created, much like El D setting up his own lounge-like discussion forum to be an alternative to the Lounge for those who don't care for that forum.

Here would be the new lineup:

1) Politics-lite : this will be the old politics forum and with the current mods from there. Emphasis will be on "Political Correctness", not offending any minority group even when such criticisms are valid/true, and genteel tea-room suitable standards of discourse.

2) Politics-rough & tumble : this will the new forum and for vigourous, in-your-face, sarcastic and aggressive discussions, where AC'ers are welcome, and where insults are allowed to a degree as long as they don't circumvent the profanity filter. If you think and argue like an idiot you can and will get called an idiot. Emphasis will be on reasoned discussion with logically valid conclusions flowing from given premises, although of course the validity of premises will often be in dispute. Truth and intellectual honesty will be given priority of being non-offensive, although blatanly racist/hateful posts will still be off limits, though they will be judged to more of a standard of truth than the current forum. Posters who make use of intentionally falsehoods and logical fallacies on a continuing basis would be subject to discipline here. pvn and Boro would be excellent mods for this forum.