AC and power

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So you're saying that until somene convinces you that peace is good, you're going to default to violence?

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This is absurd. What I said was that I am unconvinced that the rule of force would be less prevalent in an AC society than it is in many nation-states today. Basically the exact opposite of what you are attributing to me.

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You said you have to be convinced of the viability of non-violence. I don't know what other conclusion to draw.

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Once again, I said I am not convinced that force would be less prevalent in an AC society. I am not convinced that, if you got rid of the government, non-violence would be the norm.

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What, exactly is the difference between "not convinced that force would be less prevalent" and "unconvinced of the viability of non-violence"? Who's being obtuse here?

(note that "you're being obtuse" is the new way of saying "you're a troll" to anyone that disagrees with you.)

And you don't get to AC by simply "getting rid of the government". If the established order is suddenly changed to such an extreme, of course chaos will be widespread. This is true of *any* two conditions that you pick for the "Before" and "After" - and the more dissimilar they are, and the quicker and more unexpected the transition is, the more chaos will be observed.