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Old 03-19-2007, 04:49 PM
RickA RickA is offline
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Default Do I Help Bad Players Play Right? Very long (3 hands)

I'm sorry for the length of this post but I felt they had to be included together to help create the table dynamics.


Here are 3 specific hands I have against an opponent who was playing 80/5/1.8.

Other Considerations:
He had called an AI on a A-Q-2 board with 2-3. Turn 2, River 2.
He called I believe every flop bet he saw.
He pushed bottom 2 pair on something like a 8-9-T-Q board.
Hit on at least 1 other gutshot draw by calling flop and PSB on turn.

So, I didn't know how to categorize him because he was a calling station who would show some aggression with mediocre hands.


Hand # 1.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $30.15
Hero (SB): $81.2
BB: $59.25
UTG: $104.65
MP: $20.80
CO: $14.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2.5, 5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, CO calls $4

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($14.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, CO calls all in for $8.25
Uncalled bet of $0.75 returned to Hero

<font color="black">River:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($31, 2 players)
No action

He showed 7-5.

I know I shouldn't show results but this was the only history we had to the river.

I just called with J's here becasue I know I would have to invest $3 Pre flop , $4 on flop and I would still have no idea where I was at. I'm assuming this is incorrect?

I sense now that my flop raise is too small. What should I have raised knowing it was getting called?


Hand #2

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
4 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (UTG): $67.15
BTN: $78.40
SB: $22.55
BB: $26.05

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.75, 4 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, BTN folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3.75, 2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $5

<font color="black">Turn:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] ($19.75, 2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5

<font color="black">River:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($29.75, 2 players)
<font color="red">BB bets all in for $11.80</font>, Hero calls $11.80

Any thoughts?

Hand#3
Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BB: $9
Hero (UTG): $59.55
MP: $24.50
CO: $59.35
BTN: $83.70
SB: $91.6

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($10, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all in to $87.10</font>, Hero calls all in for $44.80
Uncalled bet of $32.30 returned to SB

<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($119.6, 2 players)
No action

I have been giving away alot of sessions worth of work to these types of players and I know I have a serious leak?
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