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Old 02-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default Re: commerce 2/4 hand

Caveat: I do not play this high.

Depending on the suits of KT (i.e. the more clubs in your hand the better--I would not even question a call with the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]), would folding the flop be horrendously weak-tight?

I understand you're getting 8:1 closing the action. And I wouldn't question playing the hand on the flop if it went check-bet or bet-fold to you. But here are some negative scenarios that I believe will be quite costly (in order from more probable to least probable):

(a) SB bets with a made hand and BB takes one off with overs that dominate yours.
(b) SB bets or BB calls with 78 and gets there when you hit a T.
(c) Third [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] comes to give you top pair, but completes someone else's flush.
(d) Someone makes two pair when you make top pair (T9 or even K9s viable?)
(e) Someone currently flopped a made hand that you are drawing slim or dead to. (Two pair unlikely, but set?)

Just some ideas. Basically, I'm thinking reverse-implied odds. Someone could convince me this would be worth playing on the flop if he/she can debunk the above thinking.

As played, I believe it's such an extremely thin scenario that it doesn't matter what you do. I would probably check it given the description that BB was a "very good player".

Thanks,

Garland
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