Das Ting in Itself

[luckyme]

There's no way to resolve this but it'd be interesting what SMP thinks about it.

Science is very impressive in the phenomenal department, the high success it has in prediction suggests our models are a pretty decent mapping of how things interact or, perhaps more accurately, how we interact with things.

But are we anywhere yet along the road to "the thing in itself"? I rather doubt it, or at least I see no reason to think we have any solid reason to think we have any way of knowing the way things 'really' are.

Anyone know any good modern takes on the topic? or have one themselves?

luckyme .... HORSE convert