Whats your river line? 60-120 live

[mike l.]

"why not just limp, mike, w/ hands that play well multiway?"

there is merit to seeing the flop 4 handed (sb always comes when it's one chip more to him) i admit but i like raising a bit more. some reasons:

--it balances your raises with premium starters. players cant assume a 743 flop or whatever missed you and play back.
--really bad players just need to be isolated constantly. they play their winning hands bad and their losing hands even worse and having position on them is so meaningful. just because you raise w/ 86 doesnt mean you pound away relentlessly no matter what. sometimes you give up after they call your flop bet, sometimes if the blinds come along you give up on the flop. sometimes you get tricky and represent a card that falls on the turn and get someone to laydown a winner. all these things can happen sometimes if you take the initiative preflop and raise it up. when you isolate a bad player you set up a scenario where you are playing the house in a heads up game with them where they have the worst of it. how can they have the worst of it if they have QT and you have 86? all the times they miss and draw and you charge them correctly (with or without a pair) and they muck on the end should overcome the times you end up spewing and giving them chips. position+expert play=oop fish loses all his chips. it's one of the finest things that can happen in live play. the fish are just sooo loose and passive and they never play back, they walk in the door expecting to dump off all their money. and they do.