Commerce 2/4.... some folds

[siegfriedandroy]

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Hey,

Spent some time at Commerce this past week and managed to play 2/4 on multiple occasions. Thought I'd relay some hands and see what you guys thought.

4 handed for the first one. Opponent, for those who know her, is Jade. She basically just plays really good. I raise AhKd UTG and she 3 bets her button, I call HU.

Flop Ac Jc 6h I c/r and 4 bet her 3 bet she calls. Turn 7c I bet she raises I call. River Qc I check fold. Pretty damn sure I got the river right. What about the rest?


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What are you hoping to be beating on that turn? What are you hoping for on the river to warrant a call other than the two non club kings and even those are prolly no good?


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Second hand is against Ana. Apparently she wins a lot there, but I think she plays too tight and predictably for this limit. She is stuck and although not tilting hard or anything, is very likely upset at the time. I am also losing at this point in the game and could appear to be a little on edge.

Anyhow, I raise KsQs up front in a 7 or 8 handed game and she 3 bets her SB and I call. Flop is Js 9s 4d and I just call. Turn is the 3d and I raise her bet, she 3 bets me and I call.


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A lot of folks here disagree with this play, I think it's good IF Ana has pockets lower than 9 often enough. It'd be better to raise flop if she has AQ or AK and better to raise turn if she has a low pocket.

If she has anything better than low pocket then you're basically spewing it, and imho that's more often than her having low pockets that she wouldn't have folded otherwise.

So um, the play is not wrong, but a flop raise would be better.


What do you guys think of simply calling the flop and then calling the turn instead of raising?

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hey alex. i agree that in hand 1, it seems incongruous to call turn and fold riv. i'd probably fold the turn after the flop action. hard to say, though, not knowing how exactly how she plays.

in hand 2, why do you think a flop raise is more likely to get rid of ak/aq? as for just calling flop and turn, i think this is fine, and not sure it's correct to constantly go nuts w/ good draws. probably best to keep your lines well balanced.