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Old 10-18-2006, 07:14 PM
imgoingrock imgoingrock is offline
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Default KK OOP

please read this hand careful and review. at first glance it's going to look like, get it all in. Look at that board. If the board had a 3h instead of Jh, i wouldn't be posting -thanks


Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $276.15
HERO: $174.75
CO: $209.60

Button: $39.90
SB: $34.85
BB: $114

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is UTG+1 with Kd Kc
UTG calls, HERO raises to $4, CO raises to $16, 4 folds, HERO calls.

Flop: 8h 10c Jh ($34.5, 2 players)
HERO checks, CO bets $26, HERO ... (i calculate my max equity to be 52%, i might be sitting at 15% if villain's range is KK+)


*Villian is tight, in 200 hands I have not seen him reraise PF (i make notes when this happens)

*Villain is fairly passive and tight, AF = 1.5 PFR<8%

***I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE 3-BET PF. PLEASE COMMENT ON FLOP PLAY. I'M PUTTING TIGHT VILLAIN ON JJ+, AK BASED ON HIS PREFLOP PLAY. I KNOW THAT I SHOULD HAVE 3-BET
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part 2:

let's say that i do 3-bet preflop:

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is UTG+1 with Kd Kc
UTG calls, HERO raises to $4, CO raises to $16, 4 folds, HERO raises to $50, CO pushes, HERO ...?

Based on villain being passive, not getting out of line, and never has reraised preflop is it right to just stick it in with KK? I for one do not agree with books that say it's impossible to avoid being stacked KK vs AA. in the 15 times or so that it's happened to me, i believe i could have prevented atleast 5 of them when the villain is extremely tight and i almost knew it was going to happen. There may have been 2-3 KK where i won vs. AK or QQ against a maniac who had tight stats.
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