Soooo Nath thinks he knows what he's doing.

[NicksDad1970]

There was a thread in the TV forum about that actor that laid KK preflop when he thought the other guy had aces. The KK's had slightly more than 4-1 odds I believe.

I was very impressed when he laid em down. Then Nath (and a few others) say it was a bad move.

Well I had PM's Nath a few times just trying to get him to see the light. Just basically asking him if it was just always about the odds. Asking him "is there not ANY way you could lay down when the math tells you not to?!?"

He barely left the door open saying maybe there was some weird situation but for the most part it was about the numbers.

Although I have the basic odds down and for the most pasrt agred with him. I thought there were many times when you had the odds where you lay em down.

I won't bore you with the possible scenarios. But I did and do still feel there are a couple.

Well today I was playing in a B&M tourney at the Gold Strike in Tunica. There were 6 of us left when this hand came up :

T500 antes

1500-3000 blinds.

The SB and BB were just wanting to move up a lil and were VERY tight. I ws on the button. Showing me much more respect than I deserved.

I was about avg in chips with T18k. The SB and BB had me covered.

We were 8 handed and everyone folded to me on the button.

I bet T8500, the SB folded and the BB pushed all in. So what can I can't I call her all in with?

antes = 4k
SB = 1.5k
BB = 3k

I raise to to a total of 8.5k. She goes all in and I have 8k left.

I'm very disappointed in what I raised with. Once she went all in my life pretty much flashed before my eyes. Because I knew if I folded I was definetly all in within the next 5hands. I really didn't have to put myself in that position.

The resaon I bring up Nath is because even though I think I would have called before. After listening to Nath I realized the odds were the odds.

My range of hands I could put her on????? I have no clue. I figured if she had QQ, KK, AA that she would just call and watch me go all in on the flop.



<font color="white"> </font> Well I called and she flipped over KK. I still wasn't disappointed in my call of her all in. Just mad at myself for raising with 10 2.

The flop was 3x4x5x.
The turn was a 6 and she was draawing dead.

Just like online though a K cam on the river.

<font color="black"> </font> So being results orientd I guess I shouldn't have called. But the range of hands I could put on the BB made me call.

The non smart butt in me is basically saying thank to Nath I think I made the right call.

What kind of range could I have put her on?