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Old 09-20-2006, 11:44 AM
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Default HU Strategy, convo with frappeboy

[22:23] FrappeGirl: i only played for about an hour, i won $100
[22:23] Beer$$: oh, i just went and gave my chef my menu
[22:23] Beer$$: that's cool
[22:23] FrappeGirl: your menu?? haha
[22:23] FrappeGirl: how much u gonna pay her
[22:23] Beer$$: i played for 5 minutes on UB and lost 400 to BIGDONATOR
[22:24] Beer$$: dud
[22:24] FrappeGirl: haha DUDE
[22:24] Beer$$: dude
[22:24] Beer$$: HE was owning so much
[22:24] FrappeGirl: do you have hold'em for advanced players
[22:24] Beer$$: he was starting to play well
[22:24] FrappeGirl: ?
[22:24] Beer$$: you know, like he wasn't even having to suck out... we were just giving him the money or something
[22:24] FrappeGirl: do you have that book?
[22:25] Beer$$: yes
[22:25] FrappeGirl: this relates to BIGDONATOR
[22:25] Beer$$: i 've been reading
[22:25] Beer$$: it
[22:25] FrappeGirl: i just read the shorthanded section
[22:25] Beer$$: dude
[22:25] FrappeGirl: i want you to read that part and then IM me when i get back from getting food
[22:25] Beer$$: SH HE nothing like SH stud
[22:25] FrappeGirl: and think about how it relates to BIGDONATOR
[22:25] Beer$$: dude
[22:25] Beer$$: there's no blinds in stud
[22:25] Beer$$: ive read it recently
[22:26] FrappeGirl: i know but when your opponent raises 3rd he is still getting a certain price
[22:26] Beer$$: of course
[22:26] FrappeGirl: like lets say you're playing 2-4 4 handed, there is $2 in the pot and his raise to $2 he has to win 50% of the time to break even
[22:26] Beer$$: yup
[22:26] Beer$$: that means
[22:26] Beer$$: you'd have to have a VERY
[22:26] Beer$$: wide range
[22:26] Beer$$: not to be profitable
[22:26] Beer$$: BUT!!
[22:26] FrappeGirl: so to combat someone who raises with any 3 cards to start there
[22:27] FrappeGirl: you should call with like the top 66% of your hands
[22:27] Beer$$: uhmm..
[22:27] FrappeGirl: or re-raise
[22:27] Beer$$: i don't know, man
[22:27] Beer$$: i think he's entitled to +EV
[22:27] Beer$$: cause he's not the bring in
[22:27] FrappeGirl: well if you call with under 50% of your hands he makes a profit
[22:27] Beer$$: ya
[22:27] FrappeGirl: maybe but what if his upcard is like 1 higher than yours
[22:28] FrappeGirl: but i think im playing too tight there
[22:28] Beer$$: ya
[22:28] Beer$$: me too
[22:28] FrappeGirl: like if i have (KQ)2 and he raises with a 7
[22:28] FrappeGirl: i should probably play and maybe even re-raise
[22:28] Beer$$: playing tight is ok if they'll [censored] up later
[22:28] FrappeGirl: well you are just getting yourself in more +EV situations
[22:29] Beer$$: but
[22:29] Beer$$: FRappe
[22:29] FrappeGirl: i mean even if they do [censored] up later, playing (KQ)2 may still be right
[22:29] Beer$$: like we talked about before
[22:29] FrappeGirl: this is how SuperStar plays dude
[22:29] Beer$$: you could make a lot of FTOP errors folding on fifth
[22:29] Beer$$: if your AQxyz is still best
[22:29] FrappeGirl: well thats why you need to re-raise a lot
[22:29] FrappeGirl: and take the lead
[22:29] Beer$$: BUT!!!
[22:29] Beer$$: if its BIGDONATOR
[22:30] Beer$$: and he's a relentless calling station
[22:30] Beer$$: wtf do you do?
[22:30] FrappeGirl: you still play those hands
[22:30] Beer$$: they aren't just ag
[22:30] Beer$$: they're stubborn
[22:31] FrappeGirl: well what i need to do is sit down and figure out how often you get a pair, 3 flush, etc
[22:31] FrappeGirl: and then start adding better hands to that until i reach certain percentages of hands im defending there
[22:31] Beer$$: ya
[22:31] Beer$$: we could start a thread if you're interested
[22:31] FrappeGirl: yeah maybe but right now i gotta go get some food im ready to pass out
[22:32] Beer$$: hey
[22:32] Beer$$: go get some food, ima hit the hay
[22:33] FrappeGirl: ok later man
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