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Old 08-21-2006, 10:42 PM
KingOtter KingOtter is offline
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Default I called anyway... LC

As I mentioned elsewhere I'm going through some weak-tight recovery. A lot of times on here we see threads and hands where Hero called down and still lost, even though calling down was recommended. Plus we're hearing a lot of gloom concerning downswings, bad attitude, doomswitches, the like.

When I noticed my weak-tightedness I vowed to call down more times when I thought I was beat. When I swore I might as well just pack it in because I'm done, instead, I called.

I've been very surprised. There are much much worse players out there than I imagined. Horrible players. I have absolutely been giving them wayy too much credit.

Hands like this:

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP folds, Button folds.

Turn: (3 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins 4 BB. </font>


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Couple days ago I'm sure I would have folded that flop.

Also like this:

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ad Qs (one pair, nines).
Hero has Ac Ks (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.75 BB. </font>


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This last one is something I'm seeing a lot of lately. Whiffed overcards firing multiple barrels.

Now, there should be some criteria here. This isn't a Brag thread. You should:

1. Have a better hand then the aggressor when he aggresses.
2. Call down anyway
3. Drag the pot.

This isn't about making your flush on the river, or hitting your gutshot. It is value betting that gets push-back on boards where it is not looking good for your hand.

So let me see them... let's see your call-downs that won. Let's see how bad the opposition is, thinking they can push us off our hands.

Warning: I don't necessarily advocate playing like I did in this thread. I was just doing an exercise to squeeze some weak-tight out of me.
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