new to omaha, please berate my play

SaiYeN · #1 08-18-2006, 03:03 AM

WARNING LONG POST
I dont wanna spam the forums with tons of newbie questions/hands so it's all in one big post.

So tonight i tried out PLO for the first time and it didnt go so well... down 8 buyins in 280 hands [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. I didn't really know what i was doing and was too loose preflop and probably overvalued a bunch of hands and draws.

Anyone have any preflop suggestions on starting hands? Search kinda sucks. Should it pretty much be raise or fold? I do that for NLHE but preflop raises and c-bets didn't seem to be working as well in this game.

And here's a bunch of hands, please berate me:
#1
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.90
UTG+1: $29.75
CO: $18.05
Button: $31.15
Hero: $39.75
BB: $10.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($4.25, 5 players)
Hero bets $4, BB folds, UTG calls all-in $3.05, UTG+1 folds, Button raises to $19.3, Hero raises all-in $38.9, Button calls all-in $11.
Uncalled bets: $8.6 returned to Hero.

 standard? 
Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($67.9, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13.4, Sidepot 1: $54.5)

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($67.9, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $13.4, Sidepot 1: $54.5)

Results:
Final pot: $67.9

#2
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $28.20
UTG+1: $20.25
CO: $12.15
Button: $20.55
SB: $64.80
BB: $141.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB raises to $1.5, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

 raise or fold preflop? 

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.25, 4 players)
SB bets $3.1, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.45, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $33.45, Hero calls all-in $16.6.
Uncalled bets: $9.85 returned to SB.

 im probably dead here but i couldnt resist the pot odds... 
River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($59.65, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $59.65)

Results:
Final pot: $59.65

#3
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.40
UTG+1: $93
CO: $175.40
Hero: $27.55
SB: $30.35
BB: $7

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.85, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.85, Hero raises to $3.4, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

 standard raise? 

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($7.65, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21.65, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero is all-in $16.9, UTG+1 calls.

 value bet? i thought i may get value off of 78 and would probably have heard from a set earier (but it is .10/.25 so who knows wtf they would do) 
Results:
Final pot: $55.45

#4
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.45
Hero: $175.4
Hero: $34.55
Button: $15.25
SB: $35.25
BB: $25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.25, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.75, UTG calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7, UTG raises to $19.6, Hero calls.

 fold to the c/r? 
Results:
Final pot: $50.45

#5
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $17.10
UTG+1: $25
CO: $25
Button: $139.90
Hero: $23.90
BB: $25.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $0.8, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.45, 4 players)
Hero bets $3, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO raises to $11.25, Hero raises all-in $23.1, UTG+1 folds, CO calls.

 standard? 
Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($52.65, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $52.65)

#6
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.65
UTG+1: $48.45
CO: $141.10
Hero: $27.95
SB: $25.75
BB: $13.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.1, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $4.9, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($14.95, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $10.5, Hero calls, SB folds.

Results:
Final pot: $35.95

Results:
Final pot: $52.65

#7
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG+1: $48.45
CO: $141.1
Hero: $48.45
Button: $10
SB: $21.15
BB: $17.25

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $0.95, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

 pair, doublesuited, 2 connected cards... raise? 

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.1, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, Button raises all-in $8.95, SB folds, Hero calls.

 he's short so i gotta call and pair+flush draw = nuts just like in holdem right? 

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $21)

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $21)

Results:
Final pot: $21

#9
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $7.65
CO: $110.65
CO: $141.1
Hero: $45.40
SB: $11.35
BB: $20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

 raise preflop? 

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls.

 check behind? 
River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls.

 value bet? villain was the only one that seemed like he actually knew how to play omaha

Results:
Final pot: $17