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Old 07-17-2006, 03:47 PM
christyirish christyirish is offline
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Default check raise all-in on the flop? i dont like the play

Live Game, 2-5 PLO

Button is a total maniac (but an experienced one)

I limp UTG with AK47ds

UTG+1 limps

MP(a rock who plays it as it lies) makes it 30 to run

Button : calls

Hero and UTG+1 call

4 to the flop, pot = 125

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG : I check
UTG+1 : check
MP : thinks, then checks
Button: bets the pot
UTG : I check raise all in
UTG+1 : fold
MP : fold
button: thinks, and calls with 5689, no backdoor flush draw

maniac says, i know you flopped it but ill give u action.

At the time I thought it was a very bad call, but I've got a little wiser since then and I now think it was just a bit of a bad call.

However, the issue I want to post about is not the specific hand as such. In my opinion checkraising all-in on the flop has alot of drawbacks. Obviously, when it works you're getting all your money in when your ahead. However, your also offering 2to1 to see the turn and the river, compared to 2to1 to just see the turn, followed by a 2/3 pot bet to see the river when u bet out. Reasonable drawing hands will have to call the flop raise. Also, a small but reasonable percentage of flops are checked around. In general, I don't like the play at all any more. What do the rest of u think?
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