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Old 06-16-2006, 07:28 AM
Frostbeard Frostbeard is offline
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Default A few hands against a LAG

You reload at Stars, and choose a table. You notice that there is one guy who is playing every hand, betting and raising nearly always. You do not see him fold postflop. You see him cap a turn HU against a pre flop raiser with the crap end of a gutshot. You see him cap the river against another opponent with 7 high. You post the big blind. In the first 20 hands...

I don't really like using stats that much when I only have limited hands, but for you statmeisters out there, here are his stats after the session (in white): <font color="white"> 75/30/3 </font>

Hand 1:

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 LAG/ calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 LAG/ calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB



Hand 2:
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB LAG/ calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LAG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, LAG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">LAG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, LAG calls.

River: (12.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB


Hand 3:
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 LAG/ calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 LAG/ 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">LAG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB


Hand 4:
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button LAG/ 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, Button LAG/ calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">LAG raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Hand 5:
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 LAG/ calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 LAG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, LAG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, BB folds.

River: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

I am posting these hands because I made a conscious decision during the first hand. Since he is not folding, a raise opens you up to an expensive reraise. You have no idea what he is holding, and I remembered something about c/cing in these situations. I am not exactly sure what the rationale is behind this, besides the basic win more when you are ahead bc he keeps donking, lose less when you are behind, but if he wil keep raising and not stop, then what are your standards for going to war? Are there spots where I should have popped it?
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