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Old 05-11-2006, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: handling a flop donk with mid pair + CC OTB

I don't think our implied odds are that good if we hit, as Button won't usually call two cold on the turn and the flop donker also gives up a fair amount on the turn, especially if an A is what hits. We also have to figure in the times Button will raise behind us which cuts down our odds as well.

I don't think we can give ourself the full 5 outs either, as one of the donkers holdings, 45 kills our A outs. Also, if thats the case, we are losing another 2 bets on the turn when he 3-bets us. I don't know how much weight can be given to this, but also consider Ax is a big part of a preflop coldcaller's range so an A is in his hand a lot of the time.

Finally, if we are actually ahead, which is a somewhat reasonable possibility, by simply calling we are giving Button correct odds to call with his 6 outer.
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